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Clinker

Post by olivir » Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:45 am -1100

Do you have information on clinker ("mâchefer" en français), resulting from coal combustion, used in construction early in the last century ? I didn't see in any of your databases...

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Re: Clinker

Post by Christian Bludau » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:40 pm -1100

Dear Olivir,

we have no clinker in our database. The clinker itself most time has a low water absorption as the surface is sintered. So in this case the mortar joints are the crucial factor. In 2D you can try to model that as stone and joints, in a one-dimensional model you can try to generate a material with effective values for water absorption and transport.

I once adapted the "solid brick, historical" and used it for a calculation based on some values for clincker i got. One was a kind of destructed, showed some cracks and had a quite high a-value of about 1.65 kg/m²sqrt(h) and the other one was an actual one with a really low a-value (0,002 kg/m²sqrt(h)).
klinker.zip
Contains a clinker, old, destructed, with cracks, a-value 1,65 kg/m²sqrt(h) and a new one, quite tight, a-value 0,002 kg/m²sqrt(h)
Attention: This material is not measured or validated, there is no guarantee, if the parameters are right.
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Attention: This material is not measured or validated, there is no guarantee, if the parameters are right. Further bricks are generally spoken very different. Please only use it to get an idea of the material.

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Re: Clinker

Post by olivir » Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:25 pm -1100

Thank you, Christian !
I understand there's no guarantee but it's mostly to compare quickly to limestone. Besides, what difference is important to you between this 2 materials ?

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Re: Clinker

Post by Christian Bludau » Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:47 pm -1100

Important is the a-value, in this materials the water transport is derived from the a-value. The higher it is, thhe higher is the water absorption and the transport (suction and redistribution). Further important may be the water vapor transport (µ-value).
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Re: Clinker

Post by olivir » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:57 am -1100

Is a-value (water absorption coefficient) directly accessible in material datas ? I don't find it...

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Re: Clinker

Post by Christian Bludau » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:18 am -1100

The a-value can be used to calculate the transport coefficients. It appears by switching the transport coefficients of suction and redistribution to generate:
a-value.png
The a-value appears in the material data, if generate is chosen for the transport coefficients for suction and/or redistribution.
Attention: in Wufi you have to enter the unit seconds not hour (kg/m²s^0.5)
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Attention: In Wufi you have to enter the unit with seconds (kg/m²s^0.5) not hour (kg/m²h^0.5).

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Re: Clinker

Post by olivir » Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:49 am -1100

How to obtain the a-value that for a non-editable material from one of your databases ?

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Re: Clinker

Post by Christian Bludau » Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:10 am -1100

You have to unlock the material before, then it will work....
There is something looking like a lock in the upper right corner of the material data window.
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Re: Clinker

Post by olivir » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:16 am -1100

Oh sorry, it was obvious enough ...
Why I have no a-value for Krensheimer Selly limestone ?

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Re: Clinker

Post by Christian Bludau » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:01 pm -1100

In this case the water transport was not determined. The reason is probably, that the limestone is quite tight without pores and there is no significant liquid water transport.

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Re: Clinker

Post by olivir » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:01 pm -1100

Is there a "classic" limestone with a a-value in one of the databases ? One I didn't see ... (WUFI needs a search engine :wink: )

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Re: Clinker

Post by Christian Bludau » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:53 pm -1100

As far as I know there is one in in the MASEA Source, but this one has a quite high a-value because of the cracks in the stone. I´m not sure how realistic that is.

We have a new database module in development right now which contains a search function, but this will need much more time at the moment...

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