Relative Humidity Stability

[Darren ODea]

Hi there,

I have been undertaking some research in some Australian climates (I don't think this is an Australian context discussion). I occasionally get drastic, seemingly overnight transitions from high RH in the outer 10 mm of the insulation layer to acceptable levels.

The example below is a lightweight south-facing external ventilated facade (35 ACH) with a vapour-permeable membrane and 90mm insulation layer followed by a 10 mm plasterboard layer. Canberra is the climate and driving rain is included. ASHRAE 160 internal loads (between 65 - 70%RH)

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Can the sudden drop in RH within the 10 mm insulation layer be explained numerically as it appears incorrect?

[Christian Bludau]

Hi Darren,
that may be a numerical problem or also a jump in the temperature for example. In the first step I would calculate for a longer time, maybe at least three years. If this behavior repeats every year, its probably no numerical issue.
Christian

[Darren ODea]

Hi Christian,

Thanks for the response.The data has been taken from a 5 year study and is from the second year. It repeats identically year on year.

I cannot identify an increase in the temperature of the 10 mm of insulation that directly correlates with the extreme RH drop.

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Not with standing that RH has been maintained at high levels and this wall system is failing (ASHRAE 160), it still 'feels' incorrect/misleading. It only happens on the southern (low drying, non-equatorial facing) walls. North, west and east are fine!

Have you any further thoughts?

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[Christian Bludau]

Hi Darren,

it looks to me as if dew water is forming during this period. You are evaluating a whole cm of insulation here, aren't you? If you only look at the outermost grid element, you will probably find a relative humidity of 100%, which indicates that condensation is forming in the pore volume.

Christian